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	<title>Comments on: Hotel proposal for Woodland (and the South Illinois corridor)</title>
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		<title>By: Ellen Smith for Oak Ridge &#187; Time to &#8220;wait and see&#8221; on that hotel proposal for Woodland</title>
		<link>http://ellensmith.org/blog/2007/06/24/hotel-proposal-for-woodland-and-the-south-illinois-corridor/#comment-5435</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen Smith for Oak Ridge &#187; Time to &#8220;wait and see&#8221; on that hotel proposal for Woodland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On Thursday the Oak Ridge Municipal Planning Commission unanimously approved rezoning for that proposed hotel on the edge of Woodland (see my earlier comments at http://ellensmith.org/blog/?p=53), along with several variances, including some reductions in required setbacks from adjacent properties. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On Thursday the Oak Ridge Municipal Planning Commission unanimously approved rezoning for that proposed hotel on the edge of Woodland (see my earlier comments at <a href="http://ellensmith.org/blog/?p=53" rel="nofollow">http://ellensmith.org/blog/?p=53</a>), along with several variances, including some reductions in required setbacks from adjacent properties. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Kircher</title>
		<link>http://ellensmith.org/blog/2007/06/24/hotel-proposal-for-woodland-and-the-south-illinois-corridor/#comment-3068</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Kircher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrs. Smith, it is now apparent our planning commission is on their own track away from citizens, as Mrs. Whetsel's letter to the editor in Fri. OakRidger states. I am in agreement with her and my issue with ALDI. Thankfully the hotel wasn't fast tracked, but ALDI is. We are continually showing elected and appointed positions that use the citizens as pincushions for their own lack of ingenuity. Why are they not listening? Now they are saying "We are out of the office!" When will they be back in office, when there isn’t anything else to discuss because their decision is it?

Brighter people need to fill these positions, including the paid positions. A qualification of city residency should be applied to all of the paid departments in our city, at least have the city show reasonable effort to find an employee within our own boundaries. I've grown tired of listening to outsiders say what is better for us and then ignore our questions and comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. Smith, it is now apparent our planning commission is on their own track away from citizens, as Mrs. Whetsel&#8217;s letter to the editor in Fri. OakRidger states. I am in agreement with her and my issue with ALDI. Thankfully the hotel wasn&#8217;t fast tracked, but ALDI is. We are continually showing elected and appointed positions that use the citizens as pincushions for their own lack of ingenuity. Why are they not listening? Now they are saying &#8220;We are out of the office!&#8221; When will they be back in office, when there isn’t anything else to discuss because their decision is it?</p>
<p>Brighter people need to fill these positions, including the paid positions. A qualification of city residency should be applied to all of the paid departments in our city, at least have the city show reasonable effort to find an employee within our own boundaries. I&#8217;ve grown tired of listening to outsiders say what is better for us and then ignore our questions and comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Kircher</title>
		<link>http://ellensmith.org/blog/2007/06/24/hotel-proposal-for-woodland-and-the-south-illinois-corridor/#comment-2548</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Kircher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 20:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree the lone access for the Hotel is dangerous. This is one of my concerns, second to the impact of view in the neighborhood. I believe the service road is the way to proceed, but I do not believe the service road should be pushed upon another property for just a hotel.

Wouldn't the service road increase congestion at the TN Bank rear service road to Manhattan Ave? Rather, I believe, TN Bank would much rather see different businesses there that do business with the local public daily? In favor of TN Bank, if those lots were developed for service businesses, customers of those businesses would see a favorable location in TN Bank. I would like to own a bank with those amenities of a corner lot. If it isn't out of the concern for residences, it is surely out of the concern of his clients and future clients, Oak Ridgers.

Now, I do believe TN Bank would like to see more business along S. Illinois, and their three points of entry to a service road is desirable: Illinois, Manhattan, and Rutgers.

In counter to the TN Bank service road, the Hotel should consider the cemetery with its covenants and the Hotel putting more money into correcting an unsafe stretch of road for their business, at least as much as they take. But that would only be a minimum to feeling better about the S. Illinois entrance. I would like to see the Inn Lane intersection improved to cross S. Illinois; this would require the cemetery lot. I think it would further promote retail sales with a new intersection on S. Illinois, but at the end of the day, it is just my opinion.

It is good hear our community talking about what is more important: sales taxes or lives?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree the lone access for the Hotel is dangerous. This is one of my concerns, second to the impact of view in the neighborhood. I believe the service road is the way to proceed, but I do not believe the service road should be pushed upon another property for just a hotel.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t the service road increase congestion at the TN Bank rear service road to Manhattan Ave? Rather, I believe, TN Bank would much rather see different businesses there that do business with the local public daily? In favor of TN Bank, if those lots were developed for service businesses, customers of those businesses would see a favorable location in TN Bank. I would like to own a bank with those amenities of a corner lot. If it isn&#8217;t out of the concern for residences, it is surely out of the concern of his clients and future clients, Oak Ridgers.</p>
<p>Now, I do believe TN Bank would like to see more business along S. Illinois, and their three points of entry to a service road is desirable: Illinois, Manhattan, and Rutgers.</p>
<p>In counter to the TN Bank service road, the Hotel should consider the cemetery with its covenants and the Hotel putting more money into correcting an unsafe stretch of road for their business, at least as much as they take. But that would only be a minimum to feeling better about the S. Illinois entrance. I would like to see the Inn Lane intersection improved to cross S. Illinois; this would require the cemetery lot. I think it would further promote retail sales with a new intersection on S. Illinois, but at the end of the day, it is just my opinion.</p>
<p>It is good hear our community talking about what is more important: sales taxes or lives?</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen Smith</title>
		<link>http://ellensmith.org/blog/2007/06/24/hotel-proposal-for-woodland-and-the-south-illinois-corridor/#comment-2545</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 19:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't see things that way -- &lt;i&gt;unless TNBank's objections to a frontage road cause the property next door not to be rezoned, which I don't think is TNBank's objective.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;b&gt;If&lt;/b&gt; this property ends up being rezoned for the hotel, it &lt;b&gt;will&lt;/b&gt; get its very own entrance from South Illinois Ave., which will worsen existing problems on that stretch of road -- and may lead to accidents due to hotel customers and employees making left turns in desperation (after giving up waiting for a suitable break in the traffic). 

A frontage road (or just a parking lot connection) that allows folks to make their turns at the Rutgers Ave. traffic light would make sense from a planning standpoint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see things that way &#8212; <i>unless TNBank&#8217;s objections to a frontage road cause the property next door not to be rezoned, which I don&#8217;t think is TNBank&#8217;s objective.</i></p>
<p><b>If</b> this property ends up being rezoned for the hotel, it <b>will</b> get its very own entrance from South Illinois Ave., which will worsen existing problems on that stretch of road &#8212; and may lead to accidents due to hotel customers and employees making left turns in desperation (after giving up waiting for a suitable break in the traffic). </p>
<p>A frontage road (or just a parking lot connection) that allows folks to make their turns at the Rutgers Ave. traffic light would make sense from a planning standpoint.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Kircher</title>
		<link>http://ellensmith.org/blog/2007/06/24/hotel-proposal-for-woodland-and-the-south-illinois-corridor/#comment-2544</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Kircher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 19:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the TN Bank position interesting. Here is a business owner taking stock in citizens. I applaud his effort to preserve the community. This may be the push to preserve what little housing City of Oak Ridge has.

I can see how the Hotel can persuade TN Bank customers to go elsewhere due to traffic congestion alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the TN Bank position interesting. Here is a business owner taking stock in citizens. I applaud his effort to preserve the community. This may be the push to preserve what little housing City of Oak Ridge has.</p>
<p>I can see how the Hotel can persuade TN Bank customers to go elsewhere due to traffic congestion alone.</p>
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