Comments on: Phew! http://ellensmith.org/blog/2009/06/23/phew/ I'm Ellen Smith, member of the Oak Ridge City Council. Thank you for visiting my blog and reading my views on public and private life in and around Oak Ridge, Tennessee. To add your own comments, click on the topic title to open a comment box. To read posts about a particular topic, scroll down to "Categories" (in the sidebar) or use the "Search" box in the sidebar. Look under "Archives" to see collections of past posts organized by date. Mon, 09 Aug 2010 16:01:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ellen Smith http://ellensmith.org/blog/2009/06/23/phew/comment-page-1/#comment-39260 Ellen Smith Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:28:31 +0000 http://ellensmith.org/blog/?p=241#comment-39260 Code Enforcement agrees that there are no issues on your street, Leroy. Code Enforcement agrees that there are no issues on your street, Leroy.

]]> By: LEROY GILLIAM http://ellensmith.org/blog/2009/06/23/phew/comment-page-1/#comment-39256 LEROY GILLIAM Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:17:01 +0000 http://ellensmith.org/blog/?p=241#comment-39256 Ellen This is bunch of hooie, this street is almost vacant during the week ---- most people work and the vehicles on the street are licensed if you want to look for a news item you need to look under different rocks just maybe ???elsewhere....chuckle!!! Ellen

This is bunch of hooie, this street is almost vacant during the week —- most people work and the vehicles on the street are licensed
if you want to look for a news item you need to look under different rocks just maybe ???elsewhere….chuckle!!!

]]> By: Ellen Smith http://ellensmith.org/blog/2009/06/23/phew/comment-page-1/#comment-39237 Ellen Smith Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:13:17 +0000 http://ellensmith.org/blog/?p=241#comment-39237 I hope that the developers of Clark's Preserve will find a good way to label the development without blocking drivers' line of sight. If people are leaving vehicles parked on the street on Tracy Lane for long periods, it's time to get the city staff to look into the situation. As for turning a fire truck around in a cul de sac: I've never driven a fire truck either, and I'm sure I'd have a hard time turning one around (in a cul de sac or anywhere else!). I've noticed that experienced drivers of large trucks can maneuver them far better than I would think was possible. Oak Ridge requires a cul de sac to have an outside street diameter of at least 80 feet, which seems to be considered adequate. Fortunately, it should not be necessary to turn a fire truck around in a cul de sac while rushing to an emergency call -- it should be possible to wait to turn the truck around after the emergency is over, when there's a little more time to maneuver carefully. I hope that the developers of Clark’s Preserve will find a good way to label the development without blocking drivers’ line of sight.

If people are leaving vehicles parked on the street on Tracy Lane for long periods, it’s time to get the city staff to look into the situation.

As for turning a fire truck around in a cul de sac: I’ve never driven a fire truck either, and I’m sure I’d have a hard time turning one around (in a cul de sac or anywhere else!). I’ve noticed that experienced drivers of large trucks can maneuver them far better than I would think was possible. Oak Ridge requires a cul de sac to have an outside street diameter of at least 80 feet, which seems to be considered adequate. Fortunately, it should not be necessary to turn a fire truck around in a cul de sac while rushing to an emergency call — it should be possible to wait to turn the truck around after the emergency is over, when there’s a little more time to maneuver carefully.

]]> By: LEROY GILLIAM http://ellensmith.org/blog/2009/06/23/phew/comment-page-1/#comment-39236 LEROY GILLIAM Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:47:15 +0000 http://ellensmith.org/blog/?p=241#comment-39236 As far as any abandoned vehicles all except one is drivable and is registered and that is the police departments job to tag any vehicles sitting on public streets ---- thats Oak Ridges problem. You find the bomb after its been built and you hear a ticking ---- I think that Metro Pulse had a blurb about someone's mailbox and called out the robot and the mailbox was empty. Turns out mother nature was making the sound ---- As far as the devils loop you need to drive a fire truck in cramped spaces you get a different perception of reality but planning only happens while sitting at a desk and you live with the results. Do you recoggin Kathryn Baldwin has ever ridden in a fire truck ? ---- I sure haven't but I do have respect the firemen? <em>(lightly edited by Ellen for improved readability)</em> As far as any abandoned vehicles all except one is drivable and is registered and that is the police departments job to tag any vehicles sitting on public streets —- thats Oak Ridges problem. You find the bomb after its been built and you hear a ticking —- I think that Metro Pulse had a blurb about someone’s mailbox and called out the robot and the mailbox was empty. Turns out mother nature was making the sound —-
As far as the devils loop you need to drive a fire truck in cramped spaces you get a different perception of reality but planning only happens while sitting at a desk and you live with the results.

Do you recoggin Kathryn Baldwin has ever ridden in a fire truck ? —- I sure haven’t but I do have respect the firemen?

(lightly edited by Ellen for improved readability)

]]> By: Ray Kircher http://ellensmith.org/blog/2009/06/23/phew/comment-page-1/#comment-39231 Ray Kircher Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:38:39 +0000 http://ellensmith.org/blog/?p=241#comment-39231 Then why remove it if you had permission from the city? Do you feel the city misguided you, or did your concurrence come in the form as a waiver to the city's sign law? As for the abandoned vehicles on Tracy Lane, do you know of this by personal inspection or is there a report in the city about abandoned vehicles? If the report is true, where can I find this report? Then why remove it if you had permission from the city? Do you feel the city misguided you, or did your concurrence come in the form as a waiver to the city’s sign law?

As for the abandoned vehicles on Tracy Lane, do you know of this by personal inspection or is there a report in the city about abandoned vehicles? If the report is true, where can I find this report?

]]> By: Ray Evans http://ellensmith.org/blog/2009/06/23/phew/comment-page-1/#comment-39229 Ray Evans Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:58:10 +0000 http://ellensmith.org/blog/?p=241#comment-39229 Ray Our Clark's Preserve sign was installed with the City's concurrence. Our sign along with several other development related signs are now being removed at the request of the City. LeRoy I don't understand your comment about the devil loop or the gun. Again, the cul-de-sac at Clark's Preserve are constructed to City standard as is every other infrastructure element of the project. The primary safety problem I see on Tracy Lane is the number of abandoned vehicles parked on the roadway. Ray
Our Clark’s Preserve sign was installed with the City’s concurrence. Our sign along with several other development related signs are now being removed at the request of the City.

LeRoy
I don’t understand your comment about the devil loop or the gun. Again, the cul-de-sac at Clark’s Preserve are constructed to City standard as is every other infrastructure element of the project.

The primary safety problem I see on Tracy Lane is the number of abandoned vehicles parked on the roadway.

]]> By: Ray Kircher http://ellensmith.org/blog/2009/06/23/phew/comment-page-1/#comment-39228 Ray Kircher Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:34:13 +0000 http://ellensmith.org/blog/?p=241#comment-39228 Mr. Evans, who allowed you to put your sign up and now to move it? Was all this undertaken by you without help from the city? Mr. Evans, who allowed you to put your sign up and now to move it? Was all this undertaken by you without help from the city?

]]> By: LEROY GILLIAM http://ellensmith.org/blog/2009/06/23/phew/comment-page-1/#comment-39226 LEROY GILLIAM Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:56:16 +0000 http://ellensmith.org/blog/?p=241#comment-39226 I AM SURE THAT IF EVANS WANTED TO KEEP HIS SIGN UP JUST MOVE IT TO A BETTER POSITION-- NO ONE WOULD COMPLAIN. BUT OAK RIDGE HAS ENOUGH NATURAL SAFETY PROBLEMS WITHOUT CREATING OTHERS. AS FAR AS THE CUL-DE-SAC, WHY NOT TAKE A FIRE TRUCK UP THERE AND MAKE THE DEVIL LOOP. ITS BAD ENOUGH ON TRACY LANE BUT LIKE THE OLD SAYING GOES ---"HE WHO HOLDS THE GUN SHOOTS THE BULLETS." I AM SURE THAT IF EVANS WANTED TO KEEP HIS SIGN UP JUST MOVE IT TO A BETTER POSITION– NO ONE WOULD COMPLAIN. BUT OAK RIDGE HAS ENOUGH NATURAL SAFETY PROBLEMS WITHOUT CREATING OTHERS. AS FAR AS THE CUL-DE-SAC, WHY NOT TAKE A FIRE TRUCK UP THERE AND MAKE THE DEVIL LOOP. ITS BAD ENOUGH ON TRACY LANE BUT LIKE THE OLD SAYING GOES —”HE WHO HOLDS THE GUN SHOOTS THE BULLETS.”

]]> By: Ellen Smith http://ellensmith.org/blog/2009/06/23/phew/comment-page-1/#comment-39202 Ellen Smith Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:18:26 +0000 http://ellensmith.org/blog/?p=241#comment-39202 Thanks for the information, Ray! Thanks for the information, Ray!

]]> By: Ray Evans http://ellensmith.org/blog/2009/06/23/phew/comment-page-1/#comment-39195 Ray Evans Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:18:19 +0000 http://ellensmith.org/blog/?p=241#comment-39195 The cul-de-sac radius dimensions within Clark's Preserve are not reduced in any way. They are a standard design used by the City of Oak Ridge and most other communities. The Clark's Preserve sign on Tuskegee will be coming down on Monday. The cul-de-sac radius dimensions within Clark’s Preserve are not reduced in any way. They are a standard design used by the City of Oak Ridge and most other communities. The Clark’s Preserve sign on Tuskegee will be coming down on Monday.

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